Private Messages |
| |
Inbox
- Log in to check your private messages. |
|
Site Stats |
Website Data Feed |
Last Updated 09/03/2010 12:23:57 PM |
Active Users |
Active Members: 4
Guests: 4
|
Chat Stats |
Chat Users: 0 - Join In!
Open Rooms: 4
|
Visits since 2.7.2008 |
Unique Visitors: 2494011
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted on 07/19/2010 at 11:38:41 PM
Viewed 416 times
With 13 replies
View other blogs by rlaute1
rlaute1 has not created a member gallery yet!
|
Does anyone no if your allowed to hit a frozen ball and not hit a rail as long as the other team doesnt tell you its frozen? please tell me what the rules state thank you
Rachel Smith
|
|
|
|
|
Poolhall Junkies
SS6
1351 Posts
|
|
|
Jason_G
Website SL 2
 7 Posts
|
 Posted 07/23/2010 : 8:41:49 PM
(Edited 07/23/10 @ 42:27)
|
| Or the shooter could do the right thing and admit they fouled on a shot and not try to sneak it past the other team because they may not have seen it or understand the rules. I can't imagine a shooter who's fully aware of the rules doing this and being able to live with themselves if they don't admit to the foul. |
 |
|
|
tedbamforth
Website SL 2
14 Posts
|
Posted 07/24/2010 : 4:47:34 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by Jason_G
Or the shooter could do the right thing and admit they fouled on a shot and not try to sneak it past the other team because they may not have seen it or understand the rules. I can't imagine a shooter who's fully aware of the rules doing this and being able to live with themselves if they don't admit to the foul.
You would be surprised at how many double hits etc that go uncalled unless they are seen. I always call my own fouls as I would want my oppenents to do the same. |
|
|
|
David L Hall
Website SL 3
78 Posts
|
Posted 07/25/2010 : 2:15:25 PM
|
The rules may allow it but it is still poor sportsmanship. Better to be known as a fair player than get a couple of "overlooked" fouls.
I regard ignoring a foul to be the same as cheating. Once you lose your reputation as a fair player, it is very difficult to get it back.
Frequently; when you hand the cue ball to an unsuspecting opponent, you have gained a friend who will remember your honesty.
Priceless
Dave |
|
|
|
chucks321
Website SL 2
2 Posts
|
Posted 07/26/2010 : 06:33:06 AM
|
| i agree;if you knowingly foul and don't tell the other player i feel that would be cheating.play with a clear conscious. |
|
|
|
Poolhall Junkies
SS6
1351 Posts
|
Posted 07/27/2010 : 12:05:12 AM
|
PLAY BY THE RULES
WIN BY THE RULES
LOSE BY THE RULES
.....ITS NOT MY RESPONSIBITY to call a ball frozen its my opponents..
so if i go up to table to play a safe and i think about it i may check it.but most of time im going to assume its not if my opponent didn't announce it was...
Yeah i will be able to live with myself....
So lets twist a little bit assuming your playing 9 ball its a race to 1 ball winners of the match team's goes to vegas..if you hit a ball that wasn't called frozen but after you hit you think it was..even though it wasn't called are you going to award them bih...If you say yes you are off your rocker...ill send you a postcard...Lets not take it to extremes...
quote:
Originally posted by Jason_G
Or the shooter could do the right thing and admit they fouled on a shot and not try to sneak it past the other team because they may not have seen it or understand the rules. I can't imagine a shooter who's fully aware of the rules doing this and being able to live with themselves if they don't admit to the foul.
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Jason_G
Website SL 2
7 Posts
|
Posted 07/28/2010 : 9:06:36 PM
|
| The fact that somebody wouldn't call what they know to be a foul on themselves because it means they get to go to vegas says a lot about their character. If that was the situation, I would want to get to vegas fair and square. I would call the foul on myself. It's not my opponent's fault they blink, sneeze,etc and miss a foul. I would give the ball in hand to the opponent and wish them the best of luck in Vegas if they ran out and won. The fact of the matter is the question could be paraphrased as such "If I commit a foul by my opponent doesn't see it or doesn't know it's a foul, do I have to tell them?". Why not to a senior citizen, "I have the best insurance on the planet and I'll sell it to you for 20% of your life's savings (when it's not real insurance and they don't know any better)" Same idea. I believe in Karma and it usually finds the way back to people in good and bad ways accordingly. I'll make sure to watch you should we ever play one another. And please whatever you do, do not shoot when I blink or sneeze. |
|
|
|
eric
Website SL 3
51 Posts
|
Posted 07/28/2010 : 11:47:17 PM
|
The original post was stating a frozen ball, knowing it is frozen and playing the safe and not giving BIH. That is cheating.
So Joe, if you are shooting and you are aligned so you are blocking my view of the table and make a bad hit, are you going to call the bad hit and give me BIH if I can't see it? |
|
|
|
Poolhall Junkies
SS6
1351 Posts
|
Posted 07/29/2010 : 3:00:11 PM
|
First off jason Thats cool ill send you a postcard from vegas im good with that..seconly I look foward to playing you sometime in the near future..im at the green room wed and thursday not hard to fine..As far as watching me when i shoot thats cool you can watch me from the foot of the table where you will be racking from
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Poolhall Junkies
SS6
1351 Posts
|
Posted 07/29/2010 : 3:04:53 PM
|
For eric it is not cheating it is not my responsibility to check and see if a ball is frozen it is my opponent's so its not cheating...Now this as about the frozen ball situation..If i make a bad hit and you didn't see it yes i will award you bih, I often call fouls on my players if i see a foul i will call it....To not know me and to call me a cheater is barking up a tree you shouldn't be doing...again it is not my responsibility to check if a ball is frozen my opponent needs to announce that it is and when that happens if i don't make a legal hit it will be bih.
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
House Pro
Website SL 4
318 Posts
|
Posted 07/29/2010 : 4:02:02 PM
|
Jason what if you the shooter didn't check to see if it was frozen and noone said it was, but after your shot everyone thinks it was by the way the balls reacted. Do you just agree and give them ball in hand.quote:
Originally posted by Jason_G
Or the shooter could do the right thing and admit they fouled on a shot and not try to sneak it past the other team because they may not have seen it or understand the rules. I can't imagine a shooter who's fully aware of the rules doing this and being able to live with themselves if they don't admit to the foul.
|
|
|
|
Jason_G
Website SL 2
7 Posts
|
Posted 07/29/2010 : 9:28:22 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by House Pro
Jason what if you the shooter didn't check to see if it was frozen and noone said it was, but after your shot everyone thinks it was by the way the balls reacted. Do you just agree and give them ball in hand.quote:
Originally posted by Jason_G
Or the shooter could do the right thing and admit they fouled on a shot and not try to sneak it past the other team because they may not have seen it or understand the rules. I can't imagine a shooter who's fully aware of the rules doing this and being able to live with themselves if they don't admit to the foul.
The whole point of the thread is that a player knows the ball is frozen. Me, personally, I can honestly say everytime I've ever questioned in my mind if a ball I'm shooting at is frozen, I will go over and look. Then I will state before I shoot either, "I think it's frozen or I don't think it's frozen." Then we can discuss from there and get a ruling from a non-biased party if need be. I suppose though in the scenario you described the same thing would apply we could discuss it between the two teams and if we couldn't agree, we'd go from there about a ruling. I also guess it would go to the shooter if nothing could be agreed on since that is the rule. But the point is it was done willingly knowing it would be a foul.
What if a meteorite falls through the ceiling and hits the table as your shooting at a ball and knocks the cueball off the table but nobody sees it? What if bigfoot comes in and breaks both my cues, am I allowed to swap them for another one? What if a ufo comes down in the middle of a match and one of the players is abducted and given a labotamy? Should that player be allowed to lower their skill level?
You're talking about what-ifs and unknowns. I'm talking about definites.
.02 from a nobody. :)
PS-At least I don't make it a point in every post to tell people how bad I'm going to beat somebody. Think about it.  |
|
|
|
Poolhall Junkies
SS6
1351 Posts
|
Posted 07/30/2010 : 01:29:41 AM
|
Lmao.......I think you were the first....
If i were to check every ball close to a rail to see if it was frozen it would increase match times, I usualy can tell by shadows if it is or not..in the event that i didnt check and the opponent did not announce that a ball was possibly frozen the hit is and will contnue to be a good hit..Jason good luck and good shooting..
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
|
 New Topic
| Reply to Topic
|
|
|
|
